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“ಸತ್ಯ ಶೋಧನೆ ಹಾಗೂ ರಾಜಿ” ಎಂಬ ಈ ಆಯೋಗದ ಹೆಸರನ್ನು ಬಹುಶಃ ನೀವು ಕೇಳಿರಬಹುದು. ನೊಬೆಲ್ ಶಾಂತಿ ಪ್ರಶಸ್ತಿ ಪುರಸ್ಕೃತ ಆರ್ಚ್ ಬಿಷಪ್ ಡೆಸ್ಮಂಡ್ ಟುಟು ಅದರ ಅಧ್ಯಕ್ಷರಾಗಿದ್ದರು. ಡಾ. ಅಲೆಕ್ಸ್ ಬೊರೈನ್, ಮೇರಿ ಬರ್ಟನ್, ವಕೀಲ ಕ್ರಿಸ್ ಡಿ ಜಾಗರ್, ಬೊಂಗಾನಿ ಫಿಂಕಾ, ರೆವೆರೆಂಡ್ ಖೋಝಾ ಮೊಜೋ, ಡುಮಿಸಾ ಎನ್ಸೆಬೆಝಾ, ಯಾಸ್ಮಿನ್ ಸೂಕಾ ಮುಂತಾದ ಖ್ಯಾತನಾಮರು ಸದಸ್ಯರಾಗಿದ್ದರು. ಅದು ಮೂರು ಉಪಸಮಿತಿಗಳನ್ನು ನೇಮಕ ಮಾಡಿತು.
1. 1960ರಿಂದ 1994ರವರೆಗೂ ದಕ್ಷಿಣ ಆಫ್ರಿಕಾದಲ್ಲಿ ನಡೆದ ಮಾನವಹಕ್ಕು ಉಲ್ಲಂಘನೆ ಪ್ರಕರಣಗಳ ಪರಿಶೋಧನೆ ಹಾಗೂ ತನಿಖಾ ಸಮಿತಿ
2. ವರ್ಣಭೇದ ನೀತಿಯಿಂದಾಗಿ ಸಂತ್ರಸ್ತರಾಗಿದ್ದ ಜನರಿಗೆ ಪುನರ್ವಸತಿ ಕಲ್ಪಿಸುವ ಸಮಿತಿ
3. ಕ್ಷಮಾದಾನ ಯಾಚಿಸಿದವರ ಅಹವಾಲನ್ನು ಪರಿಗಣಿಸಿ ಜೀವದಾನ ನೀಡುವ ಸಮಿತಿ
ಆ ಮೂಲಕ ಮಾನವ ಹಕ್ಕುಗಳ ಉಲ್ಲಂಘನೆ ಮಾಡಿದವರನ್ನು ಸಾರ್ವಜನಿಕವಾಗಿ ವಿಚಾರಣೆಗೆ ಒಳಪಡಿಸಲಾಯಿತು, ವರ್ಣ ಭೇದ ನೀತಿಯ ಕಾಲದಲ್ಲಿ ದೌರ್ಜನ್ಯವೆಸಗಿದವರನ್ನು ಕಟಕಟೆಗೆ ಕರೆತಂದು ನಿಲ್ಲಿಸಲಾಯಿತು. ತಪ್ಪನ್ನು ಒಪ್ಪಿಕೊಂಡವರಿಗೆ ಕ್ಷಮಾ ದಾನ ನೀಡುವ ಅಧಿಕಾರವನ್ನೂ ಆಯೋಗಕ್ಕೆ ನೀಡಲಾಗಿತ್ತು. ಈ ಆಯೋಗ ರಚನೆಯಾಗಿದ್ದು 1995ರಲ್ಲಿ. ಅದಕ್ಕೂ ಮೊದಲು 1994, ಏಪ್ರಿಲ್ 27ರಂದು ನಡೆದ ದಕ್ಷಿಣ ಆಫ್ರಿಕಾದ ಮೊಟ್ಟ ಮೊದಲ ಸಾರ್ವತ್ರಿಕ ಚುನಾವಣೆಯಲ್ಲಿ ಆಫ್ರಿಕನ್ ನ್ಯಾಷನಲ್ ಕಾಂಗ್ರೆಸ್(ಎಎನ್‌ಸಿ) ಶೇ. 62ರಷ್ಟು ಮತಗಳನ್ನು ಪಡೆದು ಅಧಿಕಾರಕ್ಕೆ ಬಂದಿತ್ತು. 1994, ಮೇ 10ರಂದು ದೇಶದ ಮೊದಲ ಕಪ್ಪುವರ್ಣೀಯ ಅಧ್ಯಕ್ಷರಾಗಿ ನೆಲ್ಸನ್ ಮಂಡೇಲಾ ಅಧಿಕಾರ ವಹಿಸಿಕೊಂಡಿದ್ದರು. ಅಲ್ಲಿಗೆ ವರ್ಣಭೇದ ಸಮಸ್ಯೆ ಮುಗಿಯಿತೆಂದು ಅವರು ಭಾವಿಸಲಿಲ್ಲ. ಸುಮಾರು ಮೂರೂವರೆ ದಶಕಗಳ ಕಾಲ ಪರಸ್ಪರ ಬಡಿದಾಡುತ್ತಿದ್ದ ಬಿಳಿಯರು ಹಾಗೂ ಕರಿಯರ ನಡುವಿನ ಕಿತ್ತಾಟಕ್ಕೆ ಕಾರಣ ಹುಡುಕಿ, ತಪ್ಪಿತಸ್ಥರನ್ನು ಗುರುತಿಸಿ, ಮುಂದೆ ಅಂತಹ ಸಂಘರ್ಷವೇರ್ಪಡದಂತೆ ತಡೆಯಲು ನೆಲ್ಸನ್ ಮಂಡೇಲಾ ಅವರು “ಸತ್ಯ ಶೋಧನೆ ಹಾಗೂ ರಾಜಿ” ಎಂಬ ಈ ಆಯೋಗವನ್ನು ರಚನೆ ಮಾಡಿದ್ದರು. 1998, ಅಕ್ಟೋಬರ್ 28ರಂದು ವರದಿಯನ್ನು ಸಲ್ಲಿಸಿದ ಈ ಆಯೋಗ ಯಾರೋ ಒಬ್ಬರನ್ನು ತಪ್ಪಿತಸ್ಥರನ್ನಾಗಿ ಮಾಡಲಿಲ್ಲ, ಯಾವುದೋ ಒಂದು ವರ್ಗದತ್ತ ಬೆರಳು ಮಾಡಲಿಲ್ಲ. ಮೂರೂವರೆ ದಶಕಗಳ ಕಾಲ ನಡೆದ ವರ್ಣಭೇದ ನೀತಿ, ಅದರಡಿ ನಡೆದ ದೌರ್ಜನ್ಯ, ಅದರಿಂದ ಸೃಷ್ಟಿಯಾದ ಭೀಕರ ಹಿಂಸಾಚಾರಗಳಿಗೆ ಕರಿಯರು ಹಾಗೂ ಬಿಳಿಯರಿಬ್ಬರನ್ನೂ ಹೊಣೆಗಾರರನ್ನಾಗಿ ಮಾಡಿತು, ಎರಡೂ ಪಂಗಡಗಳನ್ನು ಖಂಡಿಸಿತು. ಕರಿಯರು ಹಳೆಯ ವೈಷಮ್ಯವನ್ನು ಮರೆತು ಒಟ್ಟಾಗಿ ದೇಶಕಟ್ಟಬೇಕು ಎಂದು ಕಿವಿಮಾತು ಹೇಳಲಾ ಯಿತು. ಹಾಗಾಗಿ ದಕ್ಷಿಣ ಆಫ್ರಿಕಾದಲ್ಲಿ ಇಂದು ಶಾಂತಿ ನೆಲೆಸಿದೆ. ಒಂದು ವೇಳೆ, ಆಯೋಗವೇನಾದರೂ ಜನಾಂಗೀಯ ಸಮರಕ್ಕೆ ಒಂದು ವರ್ಗವನ್ನು ಮಾತ್ರ ದೋಷಿಯನ್ನಾಗಿ ಮಾಡಿ, ಗೂಬೆ ಕೂರಿಸಿದ್ದರೆ ಪರಸ್ಪರ ವೈಷಮ್ಯ, ಅಸಮಾಧಾನ ಇಂದಿಗೂ ಮುಂದುವರಿದುಕೊಂಡು ಬರುತ್ತಿತ್ತೇನೋ.
ಧರ್ಮಗುರು ಡೆಸ್ಮಂಡ್ ಟುಟು ಹಾಕಿಕೊಟ್ಟ ಇಂತಹ ಮಾದರಿ ಮೇಲ್ಪಂಕ್ತಿ ಮುಂದಿದ್ದರೂ ಬಾಬರಿ ಮಸೀದಿ ಧ್ವಂಸ ಪ್ರಕರಣದ ‘ಸತ್ಯಶೋಧನೆ’ ಮಾಡಲು ನೇಮಕವಾಗಿದ್ದ ನ್ಯಾಯಮೂರ್ತಿ ಮನಮೋಹನ್ ಸಿಂಗ್ ಲಿಬರ್‍ಹಾನ್ ಆಯೋಗ ಮಾಡಿದ್ದೇನು?
ಭಾರತದ ಇತಿಹಾಸದಲ್ಲೇ ಅತಿ ಹೆಚ್ಚು ಅವಧಿ(17 ವರ್ಷ) ತೆಗೆದುಕೊಂಡು, 48 ತನಿಖಾ ಅವಧಿ ವಿಸ್ತರಣೆಗಳನ್ನು ಪಡೆದು ಕೊಂಡು ಲಿಬರ್‍ಹಾನ್ ಕೊಟ್ಟ ವರದಿಯಾದರೂ ಎಂಥದ್ದು? ವರದಿಯ 1029 ಪುಟಗಳಲ್ಲಿ ಶೋಧಿಸಿರುವ ಸತ್ಯವಾದರೂ ಏನು? “ಲಾಲ್ ಕೃಷ್ಣ ಆಡ್ವಾಣಿ, ಅಟಲ್ ಬಿಹಾರಿ ವಾಜಪೇಯಿ, ಮುರಳಿ ಮನೋಹರ ಜೋಶಿ ಮುಂತಾದವರಿಗೆ ಸಂಘಪರಿ ವಾರದ ಕಾರ್ಯಸೂಚಿಯೇನೆಂದು ತಿಳಿದಿರಲಿಲ್ಲ ಎಂದು ಒಂದು ಕ್ಷಣಕ್ಕೂ ಅಂದುಕೊಳ್ಳಬೇಡಿ. ‘ಸೋಗಲಾಡಿ ಸೌಮ್ಯವಾದಿಗಳು’ ಎಂದು ಕರೆಯಬಹುದಾದ ಈ ನಾಯಕರು ಖಂಡಿತ ಸಂಘ ಪರಿವಾರದ ಆeಯನ್ನು ಪಾಲಿಸದೇ ಇರುತ್ತಿರಲಿಲ್ಲ. ಇವರೆಲ್ಲಾ ಸಂಘಪರಿವಾರದ ಮುಖವಾಡಗಳು”.
“ಇವರಿಗೆ ಸಂಶಯದ ಲಾಭ ಕೊಡುವುದಕ್ಕಾಗಲಿ, ಜವಾಬ್ದಾರಿಯಿಂದ ನುಣುಚಿಕೊಳ್ಳಲು ಬಿಡುವುದಕ್ಕಾಗಲಿ ಆಗುವುದಿಲ್ಲ. ಈ ನಾಯಕರುಗಳು ಮತದಾರರ ವಿಶ್ವಾಸಕ್ಕೆ ದ್ರೋಹಬಗೆದಿದ್ದಾರೆ. ಪ್ರಜಾತಂತ್ರದಲ್ಲಿ ಇದಕ್ಕಿಂತ ದೊಡ್ಡ ದ್ರೋಹ ಮತ್ತೊಂದಿಲ್ಲ. ಹಾಗಾಗಿ ಇವರನ್ನು, ಇವರು ಮಾಡಿದ ಪಾಪಕಾರ್ಯಕ್ಕಾಗಿ ಸೋಗಲಾಡಿ ಸೌಮ್ಯವಾದಿಗಳು ಎಂದು ಕರೆಯಲು ಆಯೋಗಕ್ಕೆ ಯಾವ ಅಂಜಿಕೆಯೂ ಇಲ್ಲ”.
ಹಾಗಂತ ನ್ಯಾಯಮೂರ್ತಿ ಎಂ.ಎಸ್. ಲಿಬರ್‍ಹಾನ್ ತಮ್ಮ ವರದಿಯಲ್ಲಿ ಹೇಳಿದ್ದಾರೆ!
ಮಾಜಿ ಪ್ರಧಾನಿ ಅಟಲ್ ಬಿಹಾರಿ ವಾಜಪೇಯಿಯವರನ್ನಾಗಲಿ, ಅಥವಾ ಯಾರನ್ನೇ ಆಗಲಿ ‘ಸೋಗಲಾಡಿ ಸೌಮ್ಯವಾದಿಗಳು’ ಎಂದು ಕರೆಯಲು ಲಿಬರ್‍ಹಾನ್‌ಗೆ ಯಾವ ಹಕ್ಕಿದೆ? ಅಷ್ಟಕ್ಕೂ ಲಿಬ ರ್‍ಹಾನ್ ಯಾರು? ಲಿಬರ್‍ಹಾನ್ ಆಯೋಗ ಒಂದು ಸತ್ಯಶೋಧನೆ ಅಥವಾ ಫ್ಯಾಕ್ಟ್ ಫೈಂಡಿಂಗ್ ಸಮಿತಿಯೇ ಹೊರತು, ಮುಂಬೈ ಸ್ಫೋಟದ ಬಗ್ಗೆ ತನಿಖೆ ಹಾಗೂ ವಿಚಾರಣೆ ನಡೆಸಿದ ಜಸ್ಟಿಸ್ ಶ್ರೀಕೃಷ್ಣ ಆಯೋಗದಂತೆ ನ್ಯಾಯಾಂಗೀಯ ತನಿಖಾ ಆಯೋಗವಲ್ಲ. ಒಂದು ವೇಳೆ ಅಟಲ್, ಆಡ್ವಾಣಿ, ಜೋಶಿ ಅಥವಾ ಇನ್ನಾವುದೇ ನಾಯಕರು ಬಾಬರಿ ಮಸೀದಿ ಧ್ವಂಸದಲ್ಲಿ ಪ್ರತ್ಯಕ್ಷ ಅಥವಾ ಪರೋಕ್ಷವಾಗಿ ಭಾಗಿಯಾಗಿದ್ದಾರೆಂದಾದರೆ ಅದಕ್ಕೆ ಸೂಕ್ತ ಸಾಕ್ಷ್ಯ, ಸಾಂದರ್ಭಿಕ ಆಧಾರಗಳನ್ನು ಕಲೆಹಾಕಿ, ಅವರ ವಿರುದ್ಧ ಕ್ರಮಕೈಗೊಳ್ಳಬೇಕು ಎಂದು ಲಿಬರ್‍ಹಾನ್ ಸೂಚಿಸಬಹುದಿತ್ತು. ಒಂದು ಸತ್ಯಶೋಧನಾ ಆಯೋಗ ಮಾಡಬೇಕಾದ ಕೆಲಸವೂ ಅದನ್ನೇ. ಅದನ್ನು ಬಿಟ್ಟು, ಸೋಗಲಾಡಿ ಸೌಮ್ಯವಾದಿಗಳು ಎಂದು ಯಾವ ಆಧಾರದ ಮೇಲೆ ಕರೆದಿದ್ದಾರೆ? ಕೆಟ್ಟ ಉದ್ದೇಶ ವಿದ್ದರಷ್ಟೇ ಸಾಲದು, ಕೆಟ್ಟ ಕೆಲಸವನ್ನೂ ಮಾಡಿದರೆ ಮಾತ್ರ ಅದು ಶಿಕ್ಷಾರ್ಹ (Bad intention coupled with bad act is punishable) ಎಂದು ನಮ್ಮ ಕಾನೂನು ಮತ್ತು ನ್ಯಾಯಾಂಗ ಎರಡೂ ಹೇಳುತ್ತವೆ. ಅಟಲ್‌ಗೆ ಬಾಬರಿ ಮಸೀದಿ ಧ್ವಂಸಗೊಳಿಸುವ ಉದ್ದೇಶವಿತ್ತು, ಅವರು ಸಂಘಪರಿವಾರದ ಉದ್ದೇಶಕ್ಕೆ ಅನುಗುಣ ವಾಗಿ ನಡೆದುಕೊಂಡಿದ್ದಾರೆ ಎಂದು ಯಾವ ಆಧಾರದ ಮೇಲೆ ಹೇಳುತ್ತಿದ್ದಾರೆ? ಅಷ್ಟಕ್ಕೂ ಅಟಲ್ ಯಾವ ವಿಧ್ವಂಸಕ ಕೃತ್ಯವೆಸಗಿದ್ದಾರೆ? ತನ್ನ 17 ವರ್ಷಗಳ ಸುದೀರ್ಘ ಅವಧಿಯಲ್ಲಿ ಲಿಬರ್‍ಹಾನ್ ಎಂದಾದರೂ ಅಟಲ್ ಅವರನ್ನು ಕರೆಸಿ ವಿಚಾರಣೆ ನಡೆಸಿದ್ದಾರೆಯೇ? 1952ರ ತನಿಖಾ ಆಯೋಗ ಕಾಯಿದೆಯ 8ಬಿ ವಿಧಿಯಡಿ ಅಟಲ್ ಅವರನ್ನು ಕರೆಸಿಕೊಂಡು, ವಿಚಾರಣೆ ಮಾಡಿ, ಅಟಲ್ ಕೂಡ ಬಾಬರಿ ಮಸೀದಿ ಧ್ವಂಸ ಕಾರ್ಯದಲ್ಲಿ ಭಾಗಿಯಾಗಿದ್ದರೆಂಬುದಕ್ಕೆ ಸಾಂದರ್ಭಿಕ ಸಾಕ್ಷ್ಯಾಧಾರ ನೀಡಿ ತಪ್ಪಿತಸ್ಥ ಎಂದು ಕರೆದಿದ್ದರೆ ಒಪ್ಪಿಕೊಳ್ಳಬಹುದಿತ್ತು. ಒಬ್ಬ ನಿವೃತ್ತ ನ್ಯಾಯಾಧೀಶರಾಗಿ ಲಿಬರ್‍ಹಾನ್ ಇಂತಹ ಯಾವುದೇ ಪ್ರಕ್ರಿಯೆಗಳನ್ನು ಮಾಡದೆ ಗೂಬೆ ಕೂರಿಸುವುದು ಎಷ್ಟು ಸರಿ?
ಅಟಲ್ ಅವರನ್ನೂ ವಿಚಾರಣೆಗೆ ಗುರಿಪಡಿಸಬೇಕೆಂದು ಮೊಹಮದ್ ಅಸ್ಲಾಂ ಭುರೆ ಎಂಬವರ ಪರವಾಗಿ ವಕೀಲ ಓ.ಪಿ. ಶರ್ಮಾ ಅರ್ಜಿ ಹಾಕಿದ್ದು ನಿಜ. “ಆ ಅರ್ಜಿಯ ಬಗ್ಗೆ ವಿವರಣಾತ್ಮಕ ವಾದ ವಾದವನ್ನು ಆಲಿಸಲಾಯಿತು. ಬಾಬರಿ ಮಸೀದಿ ಧ್ವಂಸಕ್ಕೆ ಸಂಬಂಧಿಸಿದಂತೆ ವಾಜಪೇಯಿಯವರನ್ನು ಹೊಣೆಗಾರರನ್ನಾಗಿ ಮಾಡಲು ಯಾವ ಆಧಾರಗಳೂ ಇಲ್ಲ. ಅವರನ್ನು ವಿಚಾರಣೆಗೆ ಕರೆಸುವ ಅಗತ್ಯವಿಲ್ಲ ಎಂಬ ನನ್ನ ವಾದವನ್ನು 2003, ಜುಲೈ 22ರಂದು ಒಪ್ಪಿಕೊಂಡ ಆಯೋಗ ಅರ್ಜಿಯನ್ನು ತಿರಸ್ಕರಿಸಿತ್ತು” ಎಂದು ಲಿಬರ್‍ಹಾನ್ ಆಯೋಗದ ಅಂದಿನ ವಕೀಲರಾಗಿದ್ದ ಅನುಪಮ್ ಗುಪ್ತಾ ಅವರು ‘ದಿ ಟೈಮ್ಸ್ ಆಫ್ ಇಂಡಿಯಾ’ಕ್ಕೆ ನೀಡಿದ ಸಂದರ್ಶನದಲ್ಲಿ ಹೇಳಿದ್ದಾರೆ. ಅಷ್ಟೇ ಅಲ್ಲ, “ಕರೆಸಿ ವಿಚಾರಣೆ ಮಾಡದೆ ವಾಜಪೇಯಿಯವರನ್ನು ದೂಷಿಯೆಂದು ಹೇಳುವುದು ಕಾನೂನುಬಾಹಿರ” ಎಂದು ಅಭಿಪ್ರಾಯಪಟ್ಟಿದ್ದಾರೆ. ಇಷ್ಟಾಗಿಯೂ ಅಟಲ್ ಮೇಲೆ ಕೆಸರೆರಚಿದ್ದೇಕೆ?
ಅಟಲ್‌ಗೆ ಬಾಬರಿ ಮಸೀದಿಯನ್ನು ಧ್ವಂಸ ಮಾಡಬೇಕೆಂಬ ಉದ್ದೇಶ ಇತ್ತೋ, ಇಲ್ಲವೋ… ಆದರೆ ಜಸ್ಟಿಸ್ ಲಿಬರ್‍ಹಾನ್ ಅವರು ಬಳಸಿರುವ ಪದಗಳು ಹಾಗೂ ಮಾಧ್ಯಮಕ್ಕೆ ವರದಿ ಸೋರಿಕೆಯಾಗಿದ್ದನ್ನು ನೋಡಿದರೆ ಇಲ್ಲೇನೋ ಉದ್ದೇಶವಿದೆ ಯೆಂಬುದು ಮಾತ್ರ ಸ್ಪಷ್ಟವಾಗುತ್ತದೆ.
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ಯಾವುದೇ ಪಕ್ಷ ಕೇಂದ್ರದಲ್ಲಿ ಅಧಿಕಾರಕ್ಕೆ ಬರಬೇಕೆಂದಾದರೆ 80 ಸಂಸದರನ್ನು ಆಯ್ಕೆಮಾಡುವ ಉತ್ತರ ಪ್ರದೇಶವನ್ನು ಗೆಲ್ಲಲೇ ಬೇಕೆಂಬ ಮಾತು ಹಿಂದೆಯೂ ಇತ್ತು, ಈಗಲೂ ಇದೆ. ಉತ್ತರ ಪ್ರದೇಶದಲ್ಲಿ ಶೇ. 19ರಷ್ಟು ಮುಸ್ಲಿಮರಿದ್ದಾರೆ. ಸಮಾಜವಾದಿ ಪಕ್ಷ ಹಾಗೂ ಬಿಎಸ್‌ಪಿ ತೆಕ್ಕೆಯಲ್ಲಿರುವ ಮುಸ್ಲಿಮರನ್ನು ತನ್ನೆಡೆಗೆ ಸೆಳೆದುಕೊಳ್ಳಲು ಹಾಗೂ ಬಿಜೆಪಿಯನ್ನು ಸಂಪೂರ್ಣವಾಗಿ ನಾಶ ಮಾಡಲು ಕಾಂಗ್ರೆಸ್‌ಗೆ ಸೂಕ್ತ ಕಾರ್ಯತಂತ್ರದ ಅಗತ್ಯವಿದೆ. ಅದರಲ್ಲೂ ಮುಂಬರುವ ವಿಧಾನಸಭೆ ಚುನಾವಣೆಯಲ್ಲಿ ಗದ್ದುಗೆ ಹಿಡಿದೇ ಹಿಡಿಯುತ್ತೇನೆ ಎಂದು ಹೊರಟಿರುವ ರಾಹುಲ್‌ಗಾಂಧಿಯವರಿಗೆ ಮುಸ್ಲಿಮರನ್ನು ಸೆಳೆಯಲು ಬಲವಾದ ಅಸ್ತ್ರವೊಂದು ಬೇಕಿತ್ತು. ಇತ್ತ ಬೆಲೆಯೇರಿಕೆ, ಜಾರ್ಖಂಡ್‌ನ ಮಾಜಿ ಮುಖ್ಯಮಂತ್ರಿ ಮಧು ಕೋಡಾ ಸೃಷ್ಟಿಸಿರುವ ಹಗರಣ, ಕಬ್ಬು ಬೆಳೆಗಾರರ ಸಮಸ್ಯೆಗೆ ಸ್ಪಂದಿಸದೇ ಇರುವುದು, ಲಷ್ಕರೆ ತಯ್ಬಾದ ಪಿತೂರಿದಾರ ಹೆಡ್ಲಿ ಟೇಪ್ ಹಾಗೂ ಆತ ನುಣುಚಿಕೊಂಡ ಪ್ರಕರಣ, ಅದರ ಬೆನ್ನಲ್ಲೇ ಬರಲಿದ್ದ ಮುಂಬೈ ದಾಳಿಯ ವಾರ್ಷಿಕ ದಿನ ಇವುಗಳನ್ನಿಟ್ಟುಕೊಂಡು ಪ್ರಸ್ತುತ ನಡೆಯುತ್ತಿರುವ ಸಂಸತ್ತಿನ ಚಳಿಗಾಲದ ಅಧಿವೇಶನದಲ್ಲಿ ಕೇಂದ್ರ ಸರಕಾರವನ್ನು ಪ್ರತಿಪಕ್ಷಗಳು ಪೇಚಿಗೆ ಸಿಲುಕಿಸುವುದು ಖಚಿತ ಎಂದು ಕಾಂಗ್ರೆಸ್‌ಗೆ ಚೆನ್ನಾಗಿಯೇ ಗೊತ್ತಿತ್ತು. ಆಗ ರೂಪುಗೊಂಡ ಮಾಸ್ಟರ್ ಪ್ಲಾನ್ ಏನಿದೆಯಲ್ಲಾ ಅದೇ ‘ಲಿಬರ್‍ಹಾನ್ ಆಯೋಗದ ವರದಿ ಸೋರಿಕೆ”! ಅದರಲ್ಲೂ ರಾಷ್ಟ್ರದ ಗಮನವನ್ನು ಮುಖ್ಯ ಸಮಸ್ಯೆಗಳಿಂದ ಬೇರೆಡೆಗೆ ಸೆಳೆಯುವ ತಂತ್ರದಲ್ಲಿ ಕಾಂಗ್ರೆಸ್ ಎಂದೋ ಪರಿಣತಿ ಸಾಧಿಸಿದೆ. ಆಡ್ವಾಣಿ, ಜೋಶಿಯವರನ್ನು ಟಾರ್ಗೆಟ್ ಮಾಡಿದರೆ ಯಾರೂ ತಲೆಕೆಡಿಸಿಕೊಳ್ಳುವುದಿಲ್ಲ, ಅವರ ಪಾತ್ರ ಎಲ್ಲರಿಗೂ ತಿಳಿದಿರುವಂಥದ್ದೇ, ಆದರೆ ಅಟಲ್ ಮೇಲೆ ಆರೋಪ ಮಾಡಿದರೆ ಎಲ್ಲರೂ ಮುಗಿಬೀಳುತ್ತಾರೆ ಎಂದು ಕಾಂಗ್ರೆಸ್‌ಗೆ ಚೆನ್ನಾಗಿ ಗೊತ್ತಿತ್ತು. ಈಗ ಕಾಣುತ್ತಿರುವುದೂ ಅಂತಹ ತಂತ್ರವನ್ನೇ. ಪಕ್ಷಾತೀತವಾಗಿ ಎಲ್ಲರೂ ಗೌರವಿಸುವ ಅಟಲ್ ಬಿಹಾರಿ ವಾಜಪೇಯಿಯವರನ್ನು ಒಮ್ಮೆ “ಸುಳ್ಳುಗಾರ” ಎಂದು ಕರೆದಿದ್ದ ಸೋನಿಯಾಗಾಂಧಿಯವರ ಪಕ್ಷದಿಂದ ಇನ್ನೇನನ್ನು ನಿರೀಕ್ಷಿಸಲು ಸಾಧ್ಯ? ಒಂದು ವೇಳೆ ಕಾಂಗ್ರೆಸ್‌ಗೆ ಉದ್ದೇಶ ಶುದ್ಧಿ ಇದ್ದಿದ್ದೇ ಆದರೆ, ಆಯೋಗ ಕಳೆದ ಜೂನ್‌ನಲ್ಲೇ ವರದಿಯನ್ನು ಸಲ್ಲಿಸಲಾಗಿದ್ದರೂ ಇಷ್ಟು ದಿನ ಏಕೆ ಸಂಸತ್ತಿನ ಮುಂದಿಟ್ಟಿರಲಿಲ್ಲ? ಮಳೆಗಾಲದ ಅಧಿವೇಶನದಲ್ಲೇ ಸಂಸತ್ತಿನ ಮುಂದಿಡಬಹುದಾಗಿತ್ತಲ್ಲವೆ? ಕನಿಷ್ಠ ಬಹಿರಂಗವನ್ನಾ ದರೂ ಏಕೆ ಮಾಡಲಿಲ್ಲ? ಗೃಹ ಸಚಿವ ಪಿ. ಚಿದಂಬರಂ ಹೇಳುವಂತೆ ವರದಿಯ ಒಂದೇ ಕಾಪಿಯಿದ್ದು, ಅದು ಅವರ ಬಳಿಯೇ ಇದೆ ಎಂದಾಗಿದ್ದರೆ ಅದು ಮಾಧ್ಯಮಗಳಿಗೆ ಸಿಕ್ಕಿದ್ದಾದರೂ ಹೇಗೆ? ಅದರಲ್ಲೂ ಕಾಂಗ್ರೆಸ್‌ಗೆ ಅಪ್ತರಾಗಿರುವ ಪತ್ರಿಕೆ, ಚಾನೆಲ್ ಹಾಗೂ ಪತ್ರಕರ್ತರಿಗೇ ಆ ವರದಿ ಸೋರಿಕೆಯಾಗಿದ್ದೇಕೆ?
ಅದಿರಲಿ, ಯಾವನೋ ಮೀರ್ ಬಾಕಿ ಕಟ್ಟಿದ ಒಂದು ಗೋರಿ ಬಗ್ಗೆ ಇವರಿಗೆ ಇಷ್ಟೊಂದು ಪ್ರೇಮವೇಕೆ? ಅದೇನು ಮೆಕ್ಕಾವೂ ಅಲ್ಲ, ಮದೀನಾನೂ ಅಲ್ಲ, ಅಲ್ ಅಕ್ಷಾ ಕೂಡ ಅಲ್ಲ. ಪ್ರಾರ್ಥನಾ ಮಂದಿರ ಎಂದು ಕರೆಯಲು ಅಲ್ಲೆಂದೂ ನಮಾಜ್ ಕೂಡ ನಡೆದಿಲ್ಲ. ಯಾವುದೋ ಒಂದು ಕಳಂಕಿತ ಕಟ್ಟಡವನ್ನು ಕೆಡವಿದ ಮಾತ್ರಕ್ಕೆ ‘ನ್ಯಾಷನಲ್ ಮಾನ್ಯುಮೆಂಟ್’ ಅನ್ನು ಕೆಡವಿದರೇನೋ ಎಂಬಂತೆ ವರ್ತಿಸುತ್ತಿರುವುದೇಕೆ? ಬಾಬರಿ ಮಸೀದಿಯನ್ನು ಕೆಡವಿದ್ದು ತಪ್ಪು ಎನ್ನುವುದಾದರೆ ರಾಮನ ದೇವಾಲಯದ ಮೇಲೆ ಮಸೀದಿ ಕಟ್ಟಿದ್ದು ಮೊದಲನೇ ತಪ್ಪು. ಇದರ ಬಗ್ಗೆ ಸತ್ಯಶೋಧನೆ ಮಾಡಲು ಹೊರಟ ಸಮಿತಿ, ದಕ್ಷಿಣ ಆಫ್ರಿಕಾದ Truth and Reconciliation Commissionನಂತೆ ಎರಡೂ ವರ್ಗಗಳನ್ನು ತಪ್ಪಿತಸ್ಥರನ್ನಾಗಿ ಮಾಡಿ, ಸಾಮರಸ್ಯದ ಪಾಠ ಹೇಳಬಹುದಿತ್ತು ಅಲ್ಲವೆ? ಅಟಲ್ ಅವರಂತಹ ನಾಯಕನನ್ನು ‘ಸುಳ್ಳುಗಾರ’ ಎಂದಿದ್ದ ಸೋನಿಯಾಗಾಂಧಿ ಎಂಬ ರಾಜಕಾರಣಿಗೂ, ‘ಸೋಗಲಾಡಿ ಸೌಮ್ಯವಾದಿ’ ಎಂದಿರುವ ನ್ಯಾಯಮೂರ್ತಿ ಲಿಬರ್‍ಹಾನ್‌ಗೂ ಏನು ವ್ಯತ್ಯಾಸ? ಇಂಥವರು ಸಮಾಜವನ್ನು ಒಡೆಯುತ್ತಾರೆಯೇ ಹೊರತು, ಒಂದುಗೂಡಿಸುವುದಿಲ್ಲ. ಅದಿರಲಿ, ಮಾಜಿ ಪ್ರಧಾನಿ ಇಂದಿರಾ ಗಾಂಧಿಯವರು ಹುತಾತ್ಮರಾಗಿ 25 ವರ್ಷಗಳಾದ ಸಂದರ್ಭದಲ್ಲಿ (ಅಕ್ಟೋಬರ್ 31ರಂದು) ಇಂದಿರಾ ಅವರನ್ನು ಮಹಾನ್ ನಾಯಕಿ ಎಂದು ಹೊಗಳಿ ರಾಷ್ಟ್ರದ ಎಲ್ಲ ಪತ್ರಿಕೆ, ಚಾನೆಲ್‌ಗಳಿಗೂ ಕೋಟ್ಯಂತರ ರೂಪಾಯಿ ಜಾಹೀರಾತು ನೀಡಿದ ಕೇಂದ್ರ ಸರಕಾರ ಇಂದಿರಾ ಹತ್ಯೆ ನಂತರ ನಡೆದ 3600 ಸಿಖ್ಖರ ಮಾರಣಹೋಮದ ಬಗ್ಗೆ ಕನಿಷ್ಠ ಮರುಕವನ್ನೂ ವ್ಯಕ್ತಪಡಿಸಲಿಲ್ಲವೇಕೆ? 3600 ಜನರ ಪ್ರಾಣದ ಬಗ್ಗೆ ಇಲ್ಲದ ಕಾಳಜಿ, ಪಾಳುಬಿದ್ದಿದ್ದ ಕಟ್ಟಡದ ಮೇಲೇಕೆ? ಬಾಬರನ ಕಮಾಂಡರ್ ಕಟ್ಟಿದ ಕಟ್ಟಡದ ಮೇಲೆ ಮುಸ್ಲಿಮರಿಗೆ ಅಷ್ಟು ಅಭಿಮಾನವಿರುವಾಗ, ರಾಮನ ಜನ್ಮಸ್ಥಳವೆಂದು ನಂಬಿಕೊಂಡು ಬಂದಿರುವ ಹಿಂದೂಗಳಿಗೆ ಅಯೋಧ್ಯೆಗೆ ಬಗ್ಗೆ ಇನ್ನೆಷ್ಟು ಅಭಿಮಾನವಿರಬೇಕು ಹೇಳಿ?
ಇಂತಹ ಸೂಕ್ಷ್ಮ ಲಿಬರ್‍ಹಾನ್ ಹಾಗೂ ಕೇಂದ್ರ ಸರಕಾರಕ್ಕೆ ಅರ್ಥವಾಗಿದ್ದರೆ ಅಯೋಧ್ಯೆ ಘಟನೆಯನ್ನು ರಾಜಕೀಯ ಲಾಭಕ್ಕೆ ಬಳಸಿಕೊಳ್ಳಲು, ಅಟಲ್ ಮೇಲೆ ಗೂಬೆ ಕೂರಿಸಲು ಪ್ರಯತ್ನಿಸುತ್ತಿರಲಿಲ್ಲ.
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hello prathap.
realistic artical, wonderful. keep it up.
Dear Mr.Pratap, I am neither a knowledgiable Journalist like you nor a person with any political mileage to gain here. Just as an ordinary citizen I would like to comment on your article.
I agree there is no evidence of Mr. Atal’s direct involvement in the demolition of Babri Masjid, however, even you have not denied the Involvement BJP and the Sangh Parivar. And Mr. Vajpayee has repeatedly identified himself with them before and after the incident. It’s hard to believe that Mr.Vajpayee was not aware of the developments before the incident.If his intentions were to stop the ivolvement of his partymen in indulging into this incident then why did he not stop them and if he genuinely tried to stop and failed in doing so then he should have quit the party based on Idiological differences. But he did neither of them.
“‘ಸೋಗಲಾಡಿ ಸೌಮà³à²¯à²µà²¾à²¦à²¿à²—ಳà³â€™ ಎಂದೠಕರೆಯಲೠಲಿಬರà³â€à²¹à²¾à²¨à³â€Œà²—ೆ ಯಾವ ಹಕà³à²•à²¿à²¦à³†?” yes he, as head of the commission, definitely has no right to call him so but as citizen of this country I definitely have. And you can not take it away from me.
You said that Congress released this Lieberhan report to divert the attention of people from other important issues before us. I absolutely agree with that. And also agree with your view that congress is very much adept in doing that and has been doing this since ages.
However, explain me what was the intention BJP in bringing this issue (Which was dead since last 30years before demolition) to the fore. They simply just provoked public sentiment to come to power. This was very clear when they came power and did no better than Congress when it came to Governance. So when both the parties are equally opportunistic then why blame only congress for this.
“ಯಾವನೋ ಮೀರೠಬಾಕಿ ಕಟà³à²Ÿà²¿à²¦ ಒಂದೠಗೋರಿ ಬಗà³à²—ೆ ಇವರಿಗೆ ಇಷà³à²Ÿà³Šà²‚ದೠಪà³à²°à³‡à²®à²µà³‡à²•à³†?” by this statement you atleast agree that this monument was atleast built by someone ages ago. And believe me there are enough evidences to prove that this was built during Babar’s period.I now ask you to provide one single proof that – 1.Ramayana is a Historical Event That really took place. 2. There was a Ram Mandir which was demolished by Babar to build Masjid (archeological evidence).
“ಯಾವà³à²¦à³‹ ಒಂದೠಕಳಂಕಿತ ಕಟà³à²Ÿà²¡à²µà²¨à³à²¨à³ ಕೆಡವಿದ ಮಾತà³à²°à²•à³à²•à³† ‘ನà³à²¯à²¾à²·à²¨à²²à³ ಮಾನà³à²¯à³à²®à³†à²‚ಟà³â€™ ಅನà³à²¨à³ ಕೆಡವಿದರೇನೋ ಎಂಬಂತೆ ವರà³à²¤à²¿à²¸à³à²¤à³à²¤à²¿à²°à³à²µà³à²¦à³‡à²•à³†? ಬಾಬರಿ ಮಸೀದಿಯನà³à²¨à³ ಕೆಡವಿದà³à²¦à³ ತಪà³à²ªà³ ಎನà³à²¨à³à²µà³à²¦à²¾à²¦à²°à³† ರಾಮನ ದೇವಾಲಯದ ಮೇಲೆ ಮಸೀದಿ ಕಟà³à²Ÿà²¿à²¦à³à²¦à³ ಮೊದಲನೇ ತಪà³à²ªà³.” I am surprised by this irresponsible statement. How can you hold relevant what happened almost 700 to 800 ago today? If you say it is then – 1.We have to destroy nearly all Muslim Historical Monuments because nearly all Major places in India are associated with one or the other mythogical Gods.
2. Even demolish All Ram Mandirs because Ram was an Aryan( accepted in the Hindu scriptures) and Aryans were not true Indians infact they Migrated from Central Asia (Todays Turkmenistan)- Well Proven Dear! Loads evidences to prove this.
Why You want go only as far back as 700 or 800 years but not 3000 years eh!
The way Lieberhan is ill intended about the truth the same way your articles are ill intended to favour one political party. As a Journalist please represent people, not these political parties.
Its a truth just to divert the attention politicians will do all crap things…… we cant expect anything from our so called national leaders…..
Dear Krishna prasad.Stop reading the cock and bull history books written by the leftist historians.There was nothing like ” Aryan Invasion “.If u are very much interested read books written by ” Navaratna Rajaram”.He scientifically proves the theory wrong.
nimma lekhana nijavaglu superb… nanu thappade Saturday VK adakkagiye thogondu oduthene… ennu DESHABHIMANADA bagegina lekhana vannu prasaramadi yendu vinanthi…
nimma abhimani
shoshith
Pratap Anna…. Good Article… Though I agree on some of the points which Krishnaprasad brought… I don’t totally agree on his points.
I’m not commenting anything about the politics since it is POLITICS….
Mr. Krishnaparasad, My view point below:
1. If you go thru the history most of the Masjid or any Muslim monuments in India are built on Hindu temples when Muslims Invaded India that includes World Famous Taj Mohal (http://www.pnoak.com/taj_mahal.html ). My question is why should Hindu’s keep quiet for losses we had. Country is called “HINDUSTAN” and don’t we (Hindu’s) have right to bring back charisma of our historical locations and the monuments. Why always Hindu’s are ill treated…Why hindu’s should tolerate anything and everything?
2. When some people or some organization is building Hindutva, why they are been treated as terrorist. In HINDUSTAN Muslims can pass “Fathwa†on our national song but Hindus cannot even talk about any of their policies. Don’t you think is partiality. Now Hindu’s are the minority community.
3. And our so called “Buddhi Jeevi’s†are always come on road/paper/TV when something is breached by Hindu’s but they don’t have say when Fatwa passed on National Song.
4. Politician love Muslims for Vote bank, but what makes other like ‘BUJEE’s “ do so…
5. Aryans were Indians; they did not invade (http://www.veda.harekrsna.cz/encyclopedia/aryans.htm). Just bcoz Aryans are WHITE… they are not intruders. All these arguments are part of divide and role the Aryans and Dravidians.
Dear Nagabhushan, let us get obsessed more with truth than whether it is derived from the left or right. There is nothing called left history or right history, left truth or right truth. It is not important here whether aryans invaded this country or not, what is more important here is to answer this very important question-Is Ram mandir issue, mandir-masjid issue important for us or the issues related poverty, education,health?
I will certainly read the book suggested by you because I am not bound by left or right principles.However that is immaterial here.Use little common sense and have little courage to break your beliefs then you’ll come to know what is more important for us.
To Nagabhushan and Jagadish, where did I mention that aryans invaded this country? I said aryans migrated into this geographical place.Believe me I am not an expert on history and I don’t think anybody can ever write a true history about India. Because, as accepted by professional historians hardly 10% of historical places have been excavated in India and no one has been able to decipher Brahmi Lipi and each of our sanskrit word has been interpreted in different ways by the pandits themselves. Nobody can ever claim that he knows everything about Indian history. Indian history and philosophy has been a true enigma to this day. However our ignorance of our own past doesn’t take away anything from us in making right decision for our society.
As far as hindus being treated as terrorists that’s wrong and I wouldn’t endorse it. As far as Muslims given special privileges I condemn them with equal fervour or with perhaps with more venome.
But in the same breath I would like tell you that religion is a creation of man and there are only two kinds of men – Good and Bad there are only two kinds of values- Good and Bad, there are only two kinds of ism’s- Good and bad, there are only two kinds of facts- Write and Wrong, check them out. You need not be a scholar to do that or read books about them, you just need to love people and not their religions.
Unfortunately we are still wasting our time analysing whether Mr. Vajpayee,is right or wrong.Comm on Pratap answer this.Don’t just keep watching this. Participate in the debate.
Krishna Prasad is spot on, Lieberhan is baised to one extreme and Pratap and his followers are baised to another extreme – both are wrong. Each side can suggest the other side to read books which supports their arguments but at the end of the day we should see what is relevant today and for future – past is riddled with faults on which we can’t live today or build a future for our children. Only thing what you can learn from past is violence and destruction cannot bring peace. Please shun violence, destruction and intolerance.
Dear Krishnaprasad,
“I now ask you to provide one single proof that – 1.Ramayana is a Historical Event That really took place.”
Your above statement looks ridiculous. There are lot of evedience to prove that Ramayana happened. The bridge which was built by Ram between India & Srilanka protected western part of India during the time of Tsunami. Even NASA has agreed that.
“Even demolish All Ram Mandirs because Ram was an Aryan (accepted in the Hindu scriptures) and Aryans were not true Indians infact they migrated from Central Asia (Todays Turkmenistan).”
From your above sentence it looks like you are indirectly agreeing that Lord Ram existed a long time ago.
If there was Ram, then there should be Ram Mandir. If there was Ram then surely Ramayana happened.
Your argument is completely illogical.
Behold “Akhanda Bharatada rishi munigala, Saadu~santar, lives here!
Nimage Sri Sharada maateya vishesha krupe siguvantaagali
Olitaagali Shubhavaagali
I agree with Mr. Yogesh,
That this is foolish thing asking proof for Whether Ramayana is a historical event which is actually took place or not.
He firstly tryin to proove wrong by saying Ramayana never happened.And on the other hand giving evidence for “Rama” is not an Indian.
His argument is with full of confusion.He himself doesnt know what to believe.That argument is just for time pass and Purely attention seeking.That consist vague ideas and fully misleading.
Such kind of arguments are carefully created by BUDDIJEEVI’S to make others believe they r only right n others r wrong.
Which is highly impossible b’coz they dont believe in themselves. and also they have wonderful vague ideas n base less arguments.
It is true. All educateds should understand this dirty politics by congress and every body has to participate in the election without miss. then only everybody can teach a lesson for congress for their dirty politics.
ONCE AGAIN A GOOD WRITING FROM YOU BHAIYYA…………..THANK YOU
Hi Pratap,
once again you proved that your biased towards BJP and sangh parivar. I request all the readers and you also to read the “ANAVARANA”article by Mr. Dinesh Amin Mattu published in prajavani(Every Monday) on 28/11/09 on the same Liberran Commission issue and on 04-12-09 about Who is Atal Bihari Vajpayee?.
Nitin and Krishnaprasad really good comment. We must open to the truth. we should not biased by any organisations or persons. Some sensible thoughts are coming out. Vajapayee is the only one person for BJP they can say somehow secular. Now it is also been vanished. There are thousands of Rama temple in the country,nobody is taking care of it. Eventhough there was a temple in Ayodhya. Now it is Masjid. Let it be. Construct a temple in somwhere else. Does it make any difference. We are Hindu. See the god everywhere in everything. Aham Brahmasmi must applied to Muslims and christians also. There is only classification of working class. i.e: Brahmana,Kshatriya,Vyshya,Shoodra.
Hi, I am back to seek your attention and do some time pass once again.
Let me answer Yogesh – NASA has never confirmed that there exists man made bridge between India and Srilanka its satellite images have only confirmed that there exists a bridge like structure.Carefully read you’ll understand the above sentence.Secondly, it is not the job of NASA (they are not even competent) to confirm whether it is man made or naturally existing it is the job Archeologists and Geologists.So far none of them have confirmed that it is man made structure.
Let us assume that It was built by Ram and his sena, what defies logic is instead of building 90 km long bridge they could have easily built War Ships. Don’t say Ram dint have the technology for building them or probably he couldn’t have left them as a strong evidence for us today.
Now Virat:I have no confusions- There are two ways of studying history- 1. Rely on its Scriptures alone. and 2.Take into account Archeological evidence, “Shasanas” and Scriptures.I feel and any reasonable man would agree with me that 2nd method is more reliable one. Our scriptures say Ram was an Aryan and our archelogists say they are yet to find a single archeological evidence to support what has been written in sriptures. That’s the reason I asked Pratap to give me evidence. And at the same time I also told him even if Ram existed (if we go by Scriptures) then he also happens to be an outsider to this place.
I think I have passed enough time and got enough attention.
Long live Ram Mandir issue.Hey Ram! Give them enough power to slaughter all Muslims and Christians! Hey Ram why give them trouble instead use your Magic hands and wipe them out and even me! because that is what your devotees want.
I completely agree with Krishnaprasad that Ram Sethu is not an evidence for Ramayana look at the following statement given by NASA spokesperson in a Press Release :
“Washington, Sept. 14 — US space agency NASA says pictures taken by its astronauts do not prove the existence or otherwise of a manmade Ram Setu bridge as mentioned in the Hindu epic Ramayana.
“I am not aware of any carbon dating either,” said NASA spokesman Michael Braukus, refuting claims by the Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) that the agency had the Adam’s bridge in Palk Strait – known as Ram Setu in India – carbon dated as being 1.7 million years old.
“Some people have taken pictures taken by our astronauts to make their claim. No position can be taken on the basis of these photographs in …”
dear mr.pratap, u have not replied to the arguments so putforth by mr.krishnaprasad.i am of the opinion that a journalist of ur repute should clear the doubts of ur readers. i could still recollect from the past parliament sessions where in mr. atal behari vajapayee described one of the most painful chapters of indian history, i.e, heinous crimes of the congress on the sikhs. his oration was filled with so much pain, sarcasm and passion that sympathy was roused and tears rolled down our cheeks. i had seen the same zeal when he spoke of the dark days of emergency.but i could not remember mr vajapayeejee showing these elements of his oratory skills when it came to babri masjid demolition.let us keep aside the liberhan report. the rss spokesperson ram madhav says he does not repent for the demolition of the masjid. the RSS celebrates ‘VIJAY DIWAS’ on the day of demolition. yet our former prime minister says he takes inspiration from the ‘SANGH’. what conclusion does it lead to…. mr.pratap? why are u so uncritical of mr.vajpayee in particular and bjp in general i want to know. at this point of juncture i feel kp’s arguments are the most relevant. do u have any answer….???
“Hey Ram!….. wipe them out and even me!”..
All the best go ahead Krishna prasad.Dont wait for whom you dont believe.
Dear Krishnaprasad,
”Hey Ram! Give them enough power to slaughter all Muslims and Christians! Hey Ram why give them trouble instead use your Magic hands and wipe them out and even me! because that is what your devotees want.”
Your above statement is very irresponsible.
Hindu religion is truer than any other religion, because it never conquered. Because it never shed blood, because its mouth always shed on all, words of blessing, of peace, words of love and sympathy. It is here and here alone that the ideals of toleration were first preached. And it is here and here alone that toleration and sympathy become practical; it is theoretical in every other country; it is here and here alone, that the Hindu builds mosques for the Mohammedans and churches for the Christians.â€
We should be proud that we belong to a religion which has taught the world both tolerance and universal acceptance.
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9.ಸಂಸತೠಮೇಲೆ ದಾಳಿ: ಬಿಜೆಪಿ ಆಡಳಿತದ ವೈಫಲà³à²¯
10.ಅಫà³à²œà²²à³ ಗà³à²°à³à²µà²¨à³à²¨à³ ಯà³à²ªà²¿à²Ž ಗಲà³à²²à²¿à²—ೇರಿಸದಿರà³à²µà³à²¦à³: Humanity and Political Dilemma
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We can see many such above examples.
”If we protect our dharma,our dharma will protect us.”
So Swamy Vivekananda said “ಈ ಕಾಲದಲà³à²²à²¿ ಬೃಂದಾವನದಲà³à²²à²¿ ಕೊಳಲನà³à²¨à³‚ದà³à²µ ಕೃಷà³à²£à²¨à²¨à³à²¨à³ ನೋಡಿಕೊಂಡೠಕà³à²³à²¿à²¤à²°à³† ನಡೆಯà³à²µà³à²¦à²¿à²²à³à²². ಈಗ ಬೇಕಾಗಿರà³à²µà³à²¦à³ ಗೀತೆಯ ರೂಪದಲà³à²²à²¿ ಸಿಂಹನಾದ ಮಾಡಿದ ಶà³à²°à³€à²•à³ƒà²·à³à²£, ಧನà³à²°à³à²§à²¾à²°à²¿à²¯à²¾à²¦ ರಾಮ, ಮಹಾವೀರ, ಕಾಳೀಮಾತೆ. ಆಗ ಮಾತà³à²° ನಮà³à²® ಜನ ಉದà³à²¯à²®à²¶à³€à²²à²°à³, ಕರà³à²¤à²µà³à²¯à²µà²‚ತರೂ ಆಗಿ ಶಕà³à²¤à²¿à²µà²‚ತರಾಗಿ ಎದà³à²¦à³ ನಿಲà³à²²à³à²¤à³à²¤à²¾à²°à³†. ಈ ದೇಶದಲà³à²²à²¿ ಯಾರೠ‘ಧರà³à²® ಧರà³à²®â€™ ಎನà³à²¨à³à²¤à³à²¤à²¿à²¦à³à²¦à²¾à²°à³‹ ಅವರಲà³à²²à²¿ ಅನೇಕರೠದà³à²°à³à²¬à²²à²°à²¾à²¦ ರೋಗಿಗಳà³, ಹà³à²³à³à²•à³ ಮೆದà³à²³à²¿à²¨à²µà²°à³ ಅಥವಾ ವಿಚಾರಶೂನà³à²¯à²°à²¾à²¦ ಹà³à²‚ಬರà³. ಈ ಮಹಾ ರಜೋಗà³à²£à²µà³ ಉದà³à²¦à³€à²ªà³à²¤à²µà²¾à²—ದ ಹೊರತೠನಿಮಗೆ ಇಹವೂ ಇಲà³à²², ಪರವೂ ಇಲà³à²²â€.
Today Hindu dharma is not facing much problem by other religion people but from our “Feminish Hinduismâ€. Today we need “Masculine Hinduismâ€. Even Mahatma Gandhi said the same thing “I prefer violence to cowardice. Non-violence doesn’t mean cowardiceâ€.
dear (ANNNA) sir i am your great fan but my request is please write the all words meaning in our mother language KANNADA please
1K.”If his intentions were to stop the ivolvement of his partymen in indulging into this incident then why did he not stop them and if he genuinely tried to stop and failed in doing so then he should have quit the party based on Idiological differences”.
Look Krishna Prasad, Everyone is clear about the issue of Ramjanmbhoomi. It is the palce where Ram was born. If Rama was born in that place it needs to be circumblated and saluted by his followers. Vajapayee might be having the same idea, so he has not stopped his party men.
Reagarding VP leaving the party, there are persons who are oportunistic try to gain personal benefits and there are persons who are loyal to party, even if something goes they stay they fight and set right it.
‘So when both the parties are equally opportunistic then why blame only congress for this’.
If u are a regular reader of VK then you wud’ve come across pratap’s article on Kalyan Singh, there he clearly points out the laws played out by the people in BJP.(Regarding Ayodhya issue).
“I now ask you to provide one single proof that – 1.Ramayana is a Historical Event That really took place. 2. There was a Ram Mandir which was demolished by Babar to build Masjid (archeological evidence)”.
There are plenty of evidence, only thing is you need to open your eyes and search in internet. excavators got many pooja samagris at the place where Babri edifice stood once.
“Aryans were not true Indians infact they Migrated from Central Asia (Todays Turkmenistan)- Well Proven Dear! Loads evidences to prove this”.
My Dear krisha Prasad just type N.S.Rajaram in Google, this wud suffice ur quest.
2 k. “It is not important here whether aryans invaded this country or not, what is more important here is to answer this very important question-Is Ram mandir issue, mandir-masjid issue important for us or the issues related poverty, education,health?”.
Come on, why are you diverting the issue. Poverty, education, Health are the areas which need prime importance no doubt, but these historical issues needs equal care. Why don’t you trigger your interest or zeal to find out whether Aryans are from other parts of this world or they aboriginals, as it wud be a gud exercise in this area.
Before using the word Aryan, try to understand the meaning of the word ARYAN, well cultured, well disciplined well mannered, He/She can be chinese/ japanese, A person from Baratha varsha, or from Africa, Russia or from middle east or red/white people for that matter. It is the honor given to a person in those days by authority.
Atleast these setences of mine could refine ur thought process.
“Use little common sense and have little courage to break your beliefs then you’ll come to know what is more important for us”.
Nagabushan wrote:Dear Krishna prasad.Stop reading the cock and bull history books written by the leftist historians.There was nothing like †Aryan Invasion “.If u are very much interested read books written by †Navaratna Rajaramâ€.He scientifically proves the theory wrong.
U’ve replied to Nagabushan in the above sentence, wat common sense he has to use, or which part of sentence lacked common sense, kindly throw some light.
“To Nagabhushan and Jagadish, where did I mention that aryans invaded this country? I said aryans migrated into this geographical place”.
Aryans migrated to this area according to maxmuller, then the aboriginals and the socalled migratred aryans had a rift, in that rift, the aboriginal had to face a set back and moved to south. This was the cock and bull story, which they were mentioning. However I don’t disagree that there were migrations that took place all over the world, due to many socio economic reasons.
“However our ignorance of our own past doesn’t take away anything from us in making right decision for our society”.
Those who forget the history, and lead life carelessly, The History is going to repeat itself. Right decisions are possible only if you have Historical knowledge of the issues even in scientific field, wat to say of socio, religious and archeology for that matter.
“Good and Bad”.
Ya I agree with ur statements regarding Good and Bad.
Sri: There are thousands of Rama temple in the country,nobody is taking care of it.
I won’t agree with your statements. There are 1000s of temple, it is getting lookd afterd, but due to shortage of funds, it is not getting lookd aftered proprely, it might be due to mujrai ilake illegally taking away all the donations given by the devotees and sponsoring the haj pligrimage, renovating the masjids and more recently in Andhra sending the people to Jerusalem for the so called Holy visit in the money given to Sri Ram.
“Now it is Masjid. Let it be.
Construct a temple in somwhere else. Does it make any difference. We are Hindu. See the god everywhere in everything. Aham Brahmasmi must applied to Muslims and christians also”.
I ask u a question, you are having ur home at one place where u cherished ur childhood,spent light moments with ur friends, grew up at the same place, now miscreants come and ask u to vacate with no reasons, a natural revolt will get awakened in you, but u r helpless that time, the miscreants demolish ur Home, and illegally build a complex there. Don’t you try to find ways to get the place back, The same situation, infact uncomparably higher than this suits the Ram janm bhomi issue, it is the temple where all the people wud have got congregated and sung the glories of Lord, they were emotionally attached to that palce. A baby comes out of its mothers womb, womb is a place where it is emotionally attached till its death, A henious person for sure will hesitate to point out other womb as his birth place, in presence of the womb from where HE/SHE has come from. Dear Sir/mam where is your emotional quotient.
Aham Bramhasmi, means I’m concious u are concious, there one super concious which has no concious equal to or superior than that. The one which is present in u (Super concious) (SC), the same SC is present in me. But Aham Bramhasmi never says that you and me are one and the same.
Aham Bramhasmi is a realisation which comes after realisation, in that state, S we can see RAM everywhere. There are many meanings to the word Bramha in vedic literature. Bramha:- Concious(jeeva), Bramhana(one among the four classes), Paramatma(SC)… Depending on the situation we need to use it. Ok lets come back, why are you corelating the Aham Bramhasmi realisation with that of injustice done at Ram janma Bhoomi?.
3K.”Let me answer Yogesh – NASA has never confirmed that there exists man made bridge between India and Srilanka its satellite images have only confirmed that there exists a bridge like structure. it is the job Archeologists and Geologists.So far none of them have confirmed that it is man made structure”.
Coming back to Krishna Prasad, Scientists keep on telling new things based on their discoveries, which might negate their previous statements. The Ram sethu is a belief which might be constructed by vanaras along with RAM, lets wait and watch hope for the best.
“Our scriptures say Ram was an Aryan and our archelogists say they are yet to find a single archeological evidence to support what has been written in sriptures.
if Ram existed (if we go by Scriptures) then he also happens to be an outsider to this place”.
This posting clears all the posters to this site that you have not read the history properly, and you have not obeyed your words that”I will certainly read the book suggested by you because I am not bound by left or right principles”.that is you have not read the links given to you by the other posters. No probs if u don’t read but before pointing out u must be correct, so u need to read it. It seems that u are doing some time pass, I personally don’t think so that this is a place for time pass. If you want to do time pass, internet is a vast area. If you are serious please look into the links given by me, post queries related to that, then the whole conversation will be interesting.
Thanku.
Dear prathap.
superb article…………….
may god bless you
Dear Krishnaprasad,
One thing I would like to say you that, In 21st century if you are still believing that”Good or Bad” and If everybody(Indians) follows, Believe me a fine day(not more than 10yrs) there will not be Indian existence in the world map.
why I am mentioned the above statement because that is how Indians were(17 to 19 1/2 century) there is no history stating Indian are attacking to others(not recalling correct word) and that is when Portuguese, Muslims & Britishers ruled us.
New days if some body hits you and you should hit them twice!!! then only you can survive. Unfortunately that is what is not happening and this is reason why China & Pak are gambling with us(India).
My above words perhaps looks harsh but please put your legs into Indians shoes(especially into Hindu’s)………………:)
Hai, Pratap sir this is ramesh here, am your fan, and i read all ur vijaya karnataka article betthale jagathu, but in some weeks it’s not published why sir, and we miss u pratap sir, i dont know y it’s not published please reply me sir
I hope sir you read my message, please reply me sir
hi pratap what ever the present problems facing india now all these because of congress programas and its soft corner towards minority comunity
wonderful article
I fully agree with Krishnaprasad’s views
Once again hats off to Pratap Simha. I do not agree with krishnaprasad bcoz being hindu first he should try to respect hindus hindu values.I agree with Yogesh bcoz the way he presented the ‘hindu maranahoma’.In muslim countries thousands of hindus are slaughtered.In arab countries there is no place for other religion if there den it is negligible .In this situation hindus want to struggle to guard their temples in Hindustan.So babari incident was happened.In every instant muslims are argueing jihad in india so why we should keep quiet.Krishnaprasad teaching secularism to us Why dont he teach that to muslim.Our so called Buddi Jeevis are anti nation talkers. there is no necessary to hear them. Arundhathi roy already planned to give kashmir to Pak! Girish karnad will start protest in jantar-mantar to support her….! These things will happen in india only…!.Secularism is a good thing.But only hindus should agree secularism is bad.Hinduism is a great religion.Hindus are also humans.They also have some beliefs,customs and tradition.Dont hurt them.
Dear krishnaprasad you said.’As a journalist please represent people not political parties’.If you read the previous articles of Pratap then u would have never stated the above statement
1)If pratap represent one political party.Then he never condemned the wrong done by Bjp in karnataka. But he is on the side of truth so he condemned yediyu rappa and other through his several articles.
2)If Pratap on the side of one religion.Then he never condemned Mathadishas who are commercialising the education and interfearing in politics.
krishnaprasad’s statement proves fail. SO PRATAP SIMHA IS ON THE SIDE TRUTH AND JUSTICE.Pratap keep it up we are on the side of you i.e. TRUTH
neene illa antiro ee janarigella ninna pawadgala moolaka ninna iruvikeyannu torisu……..jai shri ram………..
One of the reader says forget about the things happened about 700-800 years ago. How can we forget those things when still they have impact on today’s politics of our country. if that would be the case then we would have forgotten all the blunders committed by our great first PM and lived comfortably. It is the not the question of advocating one political party, it the question of supporting of any body who is right. that’s all!!
keep on doing it prathap!!!