superb article…………….

may god bless you

Look Krishna Prasad, Everyone is clear about the issue of Ramjanmbhoomi. It is the palce where Ram was born. If Rama was born in that place it needs to be circumblated and saluted by his followers. Vajapayee might be having the same idea, so he has not stopped his party men.

Reagarding VP leaving the party, there are persons who are oportunistic try to gain personal benefits and there are persons who are loyal to party, even if something goes they stay they fight and set right it.

‘So when both the parties are equally opportunistic then why blame only congress for this’.

If u are a regular reader of VK then you wud’ve come across pratap’s article on Kalyan Singh, there he clearly points out the laws played out by the people in BJP.(Regarding Ayodhya issue).

“I now ask you to provide one single proof that – 1.Ramayana is a Historical Event That really took place. 2. There was a Ram Mandir which was demolished by Babar to build Masjid (archeological evidence)”.

There are plenty of evidence, only thing is you need to open your eyes and search in internet. excavators got many pooja samagris at the place where Babri edifice stood once.

“Aryans were not true Indians infact they Migrated from Central Asia (Todays Turkmenistan)- Well Proven Dear! Loads evidences to prove this”.

My Dear krisha Prasad just type N.S.Rajaram in Google, this wud suffice ur quest.

2 k. “It is not important here whether aryans invaded this country or not, what is more important here is to answer this very important question-Is Ram mandir issue, mandir-masjid issue important for us or the issues related poverty, education,health?”.

Come on, why are you diverting the issue. Poverty, education, Health are the areas which need prime importance no doubt, but these historical issues needs equal care. Why don’t you trigger your interest or zeal to find out whether Aryans are from other parts of this world or they aboriginals, as it wud be a gud exercise in this area.

Before using the word Aryan, try to understand the meaning of the word ARYAN, well cultured, well disciplined well mannered, He/She can be chinese/ japanese, A person from Baratha varsha, or from Africa, Russia or from middle east or red/white people for that matter. It is the honor given to a person in those days by authority.

Atleast these setences of mine could refine ur thought process.

“Use little common sense and have little courage to break your beliefs then you’ll come to know what is more important for us”.

Nagabushan wrote:Dear Krishna prasad.Stop reading the cock and bull history books written by the leftist historians.There was nothing like ” Aryan Invasion “.If u are very much interested read books written by ” Navaratna Rajaram”.He scientifically proves the theory wrong.

U’ve replied to Nagabushan in the above sentence, wat common sense he has to use, or which part of sentence lacked common sense, kindly throw some light.

“To Nagabhushan and Jagadish, where did I mention that aryans invaded this country? I said aryans migrated into this geographical place”.

Aryans migrated to this area according to maxmuller, then the aboriginals and the socalled migratred aryans had a rift, in that rift, the aboriginal had to face a set back and moved to south. This was the cock and bull story, which they were mentioning. However I don’t disagree that there were migrations that took place all over the world, due to many socio economic reasons.

“However our ignorance of our own past doesn’t take away anything from us in making right decision for our society”.

Those who forget the history, and lead life carelessly, The History is going to repeat itself. Right decisions are possible only if you have Historical knowledge of the issues even in scientific field, wat to say of socio, religious and archeology for that matter.

“Good and Bad”.

Ya I agree with ur statements regarding Good and Bad.

Sri: There are thousands of Rama temple in the country,nobody is taking care of it.

I won’t agree with your statements. There are 1000s of temple, it is getting lookd afterd, but due to shortage of funds, it is not getting lookd aftered proprely, it might be due to mujrai ilake illegally taking away all the donations given by the devotees and sponsoring the haj pligrimage, renovating the masjids and more recently in Andhra sending the people to Jerusalem for the so called Holy visit in the money given to Sri Ram.

“Now it is Masjid. Let it be.
Construct a temple in somwhere else. Does it make any difference. We are Hindu. See the god everywhere in everything. Aham Brahmasmi must applied to Muslims and christians also”.

I ask u a question, you are having ur home at one place where u cherished ur childhood,spent light moments with ur friends, grew up at the same place, now miscreants come and ask u to vacate with no reasons, a natural revolt will get awakened in you, but u r helpless that time, the miscreants demolish ur Home, and illegally build a complex there. Don’t you try to find ways to get the place back, The same situation, infact uncomparably higher than this suits the Ram janm bhomi issue, it is the temple where all the people wud have got congregated and sung the glories of Lord, they were emotionally attached to that palce. A baby comes out of its mothers womb, womb is a place where it is emotionally attached till its death, A henious person for sure will hesitate to point out other womb as his birth place, in presence of the womb from where HE/SHE has come from. Dear Sir/mam where is your emotional quotient.

Aham Bramhasmi, means I’m concious u are concious, there one super concious which has no concious equal to or superior than that. The one which is present in u (Super concious) (SC), the same SC is present in me. But Aham Bramhasmi never says that you and me are one and the same.
Aham Bramhasmi is a realisation which comes after realisation, in that state, S we can see RAM everywhere. There are many meanings to the word Bramha in vedic literature. Bramha:- Concious(jeeva), Bramhana(one among the four classes), Paramatma(SC)… Depending on the situation we need to use it. Ok lets come back, why are you corelating the Aham Bramhasmi realisation with that of injustice done at Ram janma Bhoomi?.

3K.”Let me answer Yogesh – NASA has never confirmed that there exists man made bridge between India and Srilanka its satellite images have only confirmed that there exists a bridge like structure. it is the job Archeologists and Geologists.So far none of them have confirmed that it is man made structure”.

Coming back to Krishna Prasad, Scientists keep on telling new things based on their discoveries, which might negate their previous statements. The Ram sethu is a belief which might be constructed by vanaras along with RAM, lets wait and watch hope for the best.

“Our scriptures say Ram was an Aryan and our archelogists say they are yet to find a single archeological evidence to support what has been written in sriptures.

if Ram existed (if we go by Scriptures) then he also happens to be an outsider to this place”.

This posting clears all the posters to this site that you have not read the history properly, and you have not obeyed your words that”I will certainly read the book suggested by you because I am not bound by left or right principles”.that is you have not read the links given to you by the other posters. No probs if u don’t read but before pointing out u must be correct, so u need to read it. It seems that u are doing some time pass, I personally don’t think so that this is a place for time pass. If you want to do time pass, internet is a vast area. If you are serious please look into the links given by me, post queries related to that, then the whole conversation will be interesting.

Thanku.

Your above statement is very irresponsible.
Hindu religion is truer than any other religion, because it never conquered. Because it never shed blood, because its mouth always shed on all, words of blessing, of peace, words of love and sympathy. It is here and here alone that the ideals of toleration were first preached. And it is here and here alone that toleration and sympathy become practical; it is theoretical in every other country; it is here and here alone, that the Hindu builds mosques for the Mohammedans and churches for the Christians.”
We should be proud that we belong to a religion which has taught the world both tolerance and universal acceptance.

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2.ಗುಜರಾತ್‌ನಲ್ಲಿ 700 ಮುಸ್ಲಿಮರ ಹತ್ಯೆ: Holocaust, Genocide
3.ಕ್ರಿಮಿನಲ್ ಶಹಾಬುದ್ದೀನ್‌ನ ಎನ್‌ಕೌಂಟರ್: ಮೋದಿಯ ಕೋಮುವಾದ
4.ಕಾಂಗ್ರೆಸ್-ಎನ್‌ಸಿಪಿ ಆಡಳಿತದ ಮಹಾರಾಷ್ಟ್ರದಲ್ಲಿ ಖ್ವಾಜಾ ಯುನಸ್ ಎನ್‌ಕೌಂಟರ್:Police Atrocity
5.ಪರ್ಝಾನಿಯಾ ನಿಷೇಧ: ಕೋಮುವಾದ
6.ಡಾ ವಿನ್ಸಿ ಕೋಡ್ ನಿಷೇಧ: ಜಾತ್ಯತೀತತೆಯ ರಕ್ಷಣೆ
7.188 ಪ್ರಯಾಣಿಕರ ಜೀವ ಉಳಿಸಲು 3 ಭಯೋತ್ಪಾದಕರ ಬಿಡುಗಡೆ(ಕಂದಾಹಾರ್): Shameful
8.ಮಗಳನ್ನು ಉಳಿಸಿಕೊಳ್ಳಲು ಮುಫ್ತಿ ಮೊಹಮದ್ ಸಯೀದ್ ಭಯೋತ್ಪಾದಕರನ್ನು ಬಿಡುಗಡೆ ಮಾಡಿದ್ದು: Natural Political Dilemma
9.ಸಂಸತ್ ಮೇಲೆ ದಾಳಿ: ಬಿಜೆಪಿ ಆಡಳಿತದ ವೈಫಲ್ಯ
10.ಅಫ್ಜಲ್ ಗುರುವನ್ನು ಯುಪಿಎ ಗಲ್ಲಿಗೇರಿಸದಿರುವುದು: Humanity and Political Dilemma
11.ರಾಮಮಂದಿರ ನಿರ್ಮಾಣ: ಕೋಮುವಾದ
12.ಕಾಂಗ್ರೆಸ್‌ನವರು ರಾಮನ ಅಸ್ತಿತ್ವವನ್ನೇ ಅಲ್ಲಗಳೆದಿದ್ದು: Clerical Error
We can see many such above examples.

”If we protect our dharma,our dharma will protect us.”

So Swamy Vivekananda said “ಈ ಕಾಲದಲ್ಲಿ ಬೃಂದಾವನದಲ್ಲಿ ಕೊಳಲನ್ನೂದುವ ಕೃಷ್ಣನನ್ನು ನೋಡಿಕೊಂಡು ಕುಳಿತರೆ ನಡೆಯುವುದಿಲ್ಲ. ಈಗ ಬೇಕಾಗಿರುವುದು ಗೀತೆಯ ರೂಪದಲ್ಲಿ ಸಿಂಹನಾದ ಮಾಡಿದ ಶ್ರೀಕೃಷ್ಣ, ಧನುರ್ಧಾರಿಯಾದ ರಾಮ, ಮಹಾವೀರ, ಕಾಳೀಮಾತೆ. ಆಗ ಮಾತ್ರ ನಮ್ಮ ಜನ ಉದ್ಯಮಶೀಲರು, ಕರ್ತವ್ಯವಂತರೂ ಆಗಿ ಶಕ್ತಿವಂತರಾಗಿ ಎದ್ದು ನಿಲ್ಲುತ್ತಾರೆ. ಈ ದೇಶದಲ್ಲಿ ಯಾರು ‘ಧರ್ಮ ಧರ್ಮ’ ಎನ್ನುತ್ತಿದ್ದಾರೋ ಅವರಲ್ಲಿ ಅನೇಕರು ದುರ್ಬಲರಾದ ರೋಗಿಗಳು, ಹುಳುಕು ಮೆದುಳಿನವರು ಅಥವಾ ವಿಚಾರಶೂನ್ಯರಾದ ಹುಂಬರು. ಈ ಮಹಾ ರಜೋಗುಣವು ಉದ್ದೀಪ್ತವಾಗದ ಹೊರತು ನಿಮಗೆ ಇಹವೂ ಇಲ್ಲ, ಪರವೂ ಇಲ್ಲ”.

Today Hindu dharma is not facing much problem by other religion people but from our “Feminish Hinduism”. Today we need “Masculine Hinduism”. Even Mahatma Gandhi said the same thing “I prefer violence to cowardice. Non-violence doesn’t mean cowardice”.

All the best go ahead Krishna prasad.Dont wait for whom you dont believe.

“Washington, Sept. 14 — US space agency NASA says pictures taken by its astronauts do not prove the existence or otherwise of a manmade Ram Setu bridge as mentioned in the Hindu epic Ramayana.

“I am not aware of any carbon dating either,” said NASA spokesman Michael Braukus, refuting claims by the Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) that the agency had the Adam’s bridge in Palk Strait – known as Ram Setu in India – carbon dated as being 1.7 million years old.

“Some people have taken pictures taken by our astronauts to make their claim. No position can be taken on the basis of these photographs in …”

Let me answer Yogesh – NASA has never confirmed that there exists man made bridge between India and Srilanka its satellite images have only confirmed that there exists a bridge like structure.Carefully read you’ll understand the above sentence.Secondly, it is not the job of NASA (they are not even competent) to confirm whether it is man made or naturally existing it is the job Archeologists and Geologists.So far none of them have confirmed that it is man made structure.

Let us assume that It was built by Ram and his sena, what defies logic is instead of building 90 km long bridge they could have easily built War Ships. Don’t say Ram dint have the technology for building them or probably he couldn’t have left them as a strong evidence for us today.

Now Virat:I have no confusions- There are two ways of studying history- 1. Rely on its Scriptures alone. and 2.Take into account Archeological evidence, “Shasanas” and Scriptures.I feel and any reasonable man would agree with me that 2nd method is more reliable one. Our scriptures say Ram was an Aryan and our archelogists say they are yet to find a single archeological evidence to support what has been written in sriptures. That’s the reason I asked Pratap to give me evidence. And at the same time I also told him even if Ram existed (if we go by Scriptures) then he also happens to be an outsider to this place.

I think I have passed enough time and got enough attention.

Long live Ram Mandir issue.Hey Ram! Give them enough power to slaughter all Muslims and Christians! Hey Ram why give them trouble instead use your Magic hands and wipe them out and even me! because that is what your devotees want.